Ben's Questions

[ben]

Hello ladies and gentlemen, congrats on making it to the final 2, because that is obviously some accomplishment. The two of you had to have done something right, even if it was just getting underneath Ellen's wing and riding it out from there, but hey - how can we call that bad gameplay when it got you all there, and the rest of us here? Do I vote for the better lap dog of Ellen, or the one who finally smartened up to take out the HBIC? (Feel free to answer this question, though I'm just being sardonic.)

COLLEEN
You are someone I thoroughly enjoyed in this game. I found you real and not one to bullshit around with. You were someone I felt I could talk to, ask for honest opinions, and receive feedback that would actually be worthwhile. I feel you were actually someone who kept your head in the game throughout the duration of our time out here. You stayed focused and you had your eye on the prize, while many others of us may have gotten caught up in the "fun and games" of the chat, or personal relationships. I feel that you emitted an equal amount of personality and strategy into the chats, while for most people: it was mostly personality in this game, which left little time for strategy talk when it could count. There was a lot of down time, where I feel many people let their guards down, but you didn't seem to let your guard down and I both respect you and commend you for that. Brava!

I'm going to be straight up honest with you. I wanted to be sitting with you at the end of the game. I thought even though we were already aligned, that you would have been someone easy to beat. I didn't see much of you after we swapped, but once we were reunited, you and Ellen were definitely the two that stood out for me. I'm really proud with how you've handled yourself in this game. We formed our final 3 alliance thing (did we ever actually commit, or was it more of an unsaid thing?), and I was down with it. At the final 3 I wanted to take you, because I felt Ellen was a threat, and now I'm sitting here thinking: Wow, Colleen turned up the temperature in this game. She kicked ass and she DEFINITELY impressed me. From wanting to stick to your loyalties (honorable) to staying calm when I left (manipulative), all the way to taking out this season's top player (strategic): I think that is enough to reward you with the win, just don't let me down!

In the game, I feel like you weren't afraid to stick to your guns and you were a woman who knew what you wanted and you didn't take no for an answer from anyone. I'm not sure everyone else saw this in you and I think most people probably underestimated you, but here's your chance to express why you feel you were a stronger player than Ryan in that sense. The week Ryan wanted to take out Dominic to save AJ, you and Ellen strongly opposed this from the beginning (I actually believe you were more adamant than Ellen was about not going through with it.) Why were you so opposed to taking Dominic out earlier when he was such a big threat? Or at least we all thought so anyway lol. Furthermore, (why) do you feel Ryan depended on Ellen more than you? What did you do to branch out from Ellen, and where does your game differ from Ryan's? I feel like you both kind of accepted your position in this game, but I do feel like you got a bit of a reality check when I was blindsided. It seemed to be your wake-up call and you learned from that, which shows improvement. Do you feel Ryan showed improvement? For example, the very next week, Ellen and Ryan had the opportunity to knock you out... do you think it was a mistake that they did not? Carly obviously didn't have her wake-up call with my blindside, so personally I feel that you were more of a threat, as you now understood the dynamics of the game, and you became the star of the show. Is this maybe there you shined and Ryan faltered?

RYAN
You are also someone I thoroughly enjoyed playing the game with. We wound up together on Ellis and then after the tribe swap, we continued to work together and actually wound up bonding, where "we" found AJ. Or, at least I thought it was "we." Little did I know, this was something much bigger than I realized. Sometimes you would show me something AJ had said, or something about AJ "hinting" that she would vote with us if we lost, etc., etc. I often wondered why AJ would feel so comfortable telling you these things, so much so that I even had you two pegged as Secret Partners, but ya know, now it makes a whole lot of sense. I was just giving you way too much credit for actually working in this game. I thought it was a game-related thing, hence why I thought you must have been partners, but I guess I was wrong about you. I gave you too much in-game credit and not enough pre-game credit. The only reason we felt so comfortable over there was because of your personal relations with AJ, wasn't it? I mean, sure you can say we bonded with her... but I really wonder how much that did to push AJ to "our side." I suppose that's more of a question to ask AJ, so we'll see.

Anyway, further into the game I thought you were going to be a strong player, someone who made big moves or came across as a big character. I mean, I guess you tried. You tried to save AJ, you tried to take out Dominic earlier than he left, you tried to drag Carly along.... but in the end, I feel like you just wound up "accepting" your position in the game and not striving for more. You let AJ go not giving yourself a power position, you let Dominic stick around caving to Colleen and Ellen's wishes, you let Carly go at F4 (granted, Colleen smartened up and took you to the end, lucky). I guess my final question to you Ryan, is do you regret any of these moves? Particularly, taking Carly out at F4, letting Colleen in the F3? Personally, I feel that was the one mistake that cost you and Ellen.

You said in your Opening: "I do not believe that I told any lies that were unnecessary, and every vote I casted was just to get me to this point."

You don't consider voting me out and lying about it to be unnecessary? I never once considered anything other than voting Carly, and you told everyone else we voted out that they were going in advance, but me to that point, that they were going home? Why was it so "necessary" to blindside me. Even if I was told I was going home, I wouldn't have the resources, time, or care to try and rally up Carly and Colleen. It never would have happened. I still consider this lie unnecessary and only sent a player to the Jury pissed off. Furthermore, failing to acknowledge my departure only made it worse. Anyway, the second part of this quote, about every vote you casted was just to get you to the F2? Uhh, did you actually vote off Carly, EXPECTING Colleen to take you to the end? I don't think even Colleen expected to take you to the end (Correct me if I'm wrong, Colleen). But you voting out Carly was definitely not to "get you to this point," as I'm pretty sure you probably thought you were fucked the moment Colleen won the final immunity challenge. Luckily for you, Colleen smartened up and took you. How much do you believe Colleen's decision was of your influence? Colleen can clarify when she gets the chance to as well.

"In the end, I feel that Ryan's story is much different from Colleen's, because I feel that Colleen had to actively work to advance her position in the game, while Ryan took a much more laid-back and calm approach, just drifting."

To both of you, do you think that the above statement is an accurate assumption of your strategies and if so, which do you think that is more respectable and more deserving of the title: Soul Survivor? (How) would you alter the above statement to make it more plausible?

Good luck.
xoxo Big Ben

[Ryan]

The only reason we felt so comfortable over there was because of your personal relations with AJ, wasn't it?

Yes, we did feel comfortable because of personal relationships with AJ. However, I didn't just go up to AJ and be like, "Oh my gosh, we're friends in real life! Flip over to our side!" No. It was not like that at all, and AJ was not sure she was flipping as soon as the switch happened. Carly was her secret partner, and AJ bonded with the both of us during the first round of the game. As it turned out (and I'm saying all this based on what AJ personally told me), she was not a huge fan of Liam, Leah, or Kendell. So, she did bond closely to us and feel more comfortable chatting with us. That is the reason she felt like flipping. At least, that's everything she told me. I did not just use her as a vote and then toss her aside. She strategically chose to switch over because she thought it was best for her.


I guess my final question to you Ryan, is do you regret any of these moves? Particularly, taking Carly out at F4, letting Colleen in the F3? Personally, I feel that was the one mistake that cost you and Ellen.

How could I say I regretted this move? As Colleen said in a previous statement, she approached Carly about voting together with her, and then she lied about it. Ellen was solid in keeping Colleen. I couldn't change that, unfortunately. I think Ellen thought Colleen for sure would take her to the end. Yeah, this annoyed me, but I made the smarter move by voting off Carly. Had Ellen voted Carly, and I voted Colleen, it opened up the opportunity that Colleen and Carly could vote together and take me out. Even though this scenario didn't happen, I still made the move to protect myself. And I don't regret it now that Colleen admitted that she was thinking about it. It SUCKED voting Carly off. It really did because I love her so much. And yeah, hindsight is 20/20. But I didn't want to split mine and Ellen's votes and go in the final 4 because of being careless.

It was risky for me to have Colleen in the final 3 because she was closer to Ellen. What wasn't mentioned yet is that Colleen ADMITTED to me that she was leaning towards taking Ellen to the finals before I got to her. I stayed up until 4 AM campaigning to Colleen about why Ellen shouldn't get to the finals. Had I not done this, it would have been Colleen and Ellen sitting in the final 2. So I didn't just sit back and never advance my place in the game. I worked hard to get here.


You don't consider voting me out and lying about it to be unnecessary?

We never were on the chatroom at the same time before the vote. So I never even had a chance to lie about it to you. But yes, I did think it was necessary. I did not expect you to hear the news and then just lay down and die. Colleen was not down with voting you off. It worked better as a blindside because I did not want you freaking out and then running to Colleen and Carly and trying to get a majority. If you would have known too far in advance, you could have pulled something. Yeah, it was hard to vote you off, but there were strategic reasons behind making it a blindside. You can say that there wouldn't have been enough time, but it was still a risk. Besides, I never had the chance to lie to your face. Like I said, we never even had the opportunity to discuss the vote together before Judgement.


Furthermore, failing to acknowledge my departure only made it worse.

I apologize. Some of your comments pissed me off, quite frankly. You said how much you loved Liberty and how you should have stayed with them. Well, you were on a Chase lovefest for forever. I just found that funny because you were trashing Chase SO much before you voted him off. You said so much crap about him, but then at Judgement you were saying how much you loved him, and you answered questions at following Judgements separating yourself from Ellis and our decisions as a tribe. So yeah, I was mad at your comments and that is why I didn't post anything. I'm just being honest with you.


Uhh, did you actually vote off Carly, EXPECTING Colleen to take you to the end? I don't think even Colleen expected to take you to the end (Correct me if I'm wrong, Colleen). But you voting out Carly was definitely not to "get you to this point," as I'm pretty sure you probably thought you were fucked the moment Colleen won the final immunity challenge.

Yeah, I did think that I was fucked at that point. But as I explained above, voting off Carly was a strategic decision because I did not want to split votes and risk me getting fucked over for it.


Luckily for you, Colleen smartened up and took you. How much do you believe Colleen's decision was of your influence?

I believe that it was mostly my influence. Colleen admitted to me that she was originally planning on taking Ellen until I planted thoughts into her head. I hope she admits that here too instead of lying about it. Everything she said about Ellen being Kim in One World and playing the best game and being unbeatable in the end, are things I told her the night Ellen got voted out. This is the PM I sent Colleen:

Lol typical. You win immunity so I'm sure me and Ellen both come running to you! I'm just going to be straightforward with you. I have no idea what kind of deals or anything that Ellen has with you. However, Ellen and I have had a final 2 deal since the tribes were first divided. Had I won, I would have honored that. She assured me even after she knew she beat me in the challenge that she would take me. So good job with immunity! Definitely an amazing job! I messed up so early. I was so mad at myself!

Anyway,

Here's kinda my final plea I guess. We constantly compared ourselves to Kim, Chelsea, and Sabrina. I think it is obvious that Ellen is the Kim of the group. Let's face it, she played an AMAZING game and would absolutely win in the end. Both of us probably felt closest to Ellen than anyone else in the game. She orchestrated so many moves, and we cannot deny that at all. She has compared herself to Kim to me all of the time. She knows she played an amazing game, and I think it would be a no brainer to not want to sit next to her in the finals. She will tell you that she pissed off jurors. Well, I have too. Leah and Liam weren't huge fans of me. Chase is super pissed at me because he thought he had a deal with me coming into the merge. AJ is mad at me that I kind or ruined our friendship coming into the game. Kendell was pretty open about disliking me. She and I had a conversation about it once. Dominic thought I was being stupid by voting him out. Ben is mad that I turned on him, whereas you never voted for him. And Carly wasn't expecting me to vote her off in the final 4.


Look, I know you and Ellen have the closer relationship, but I still did play a part in saving you last round, and we have always been close too. My only point is that Ellen absolutely has this in the bag if she is in the finals. She played an AMAZING game. I think your best chance of winning is against me. That's all. Anyway, I'll stop bugging you about it. I wanted to message you because I was not sure how long you'd wait to vote, and I probably won't be around in the chat much today. Either way, when you make the decision, if you could respond to this that would be great. I'd rather know whether or not I'm going. But thank you, and good luck with your decision!

This of course excludes everything I also mentioned as soon as Colleen got into the chat. (I apologize, Ellen. I had to fight for my life.) I knew Colleen was obsessed with One World. So I strategically used One World analogies to influence her. In addition, I outed the fact that Ellen told me she was for sure taking me even after she knew I wasn't winning the final immunity challenge. This was really a sting towards Colleen, or so she said. She felt like a third wheel and like Ellen had used her. I think without my antics, Ellen would be sitting here. So no, I did not just luck my way into the finals.


"In the end, I feel that Ryan's story is much different from Colleen's, because I feel that Colleen had to actively work to advance her position in the game, while Ryan took a much more laid-back and calm approach, just drifting."


I think this statement isn't true at all, and I think it is clouded by jury bitterness and misconceptions. I did not have a laid-back and calm approach. Should I be punished for the fact that I played such a good social game that I was already ranked high in everyone's minds? I played from DAY ONE, and that is why it seemed like I was in an "easier" position later on. I was in that position because I WORKED for it. Colleen had to work to advance her position? No, Colleen was overlooked because she was seen as non-threatening, less social, and less strategic. I'm not saying Colleen played a horrible game, but she was someone who was overlooked. That doesn't mean that she had to work harder to be here at all. I would correct it to this:


Ryan worked hard in the game from very early on, securing herself into a great position by playing a very strong social and strategic game. Colleen played it cool and under the radar, and she was able to skate by because she was not seen as a threat.

[Colleen]

LOL

I've told Ellen that she is Kim from One World so I'm sorry you did not put that into my head because I've mentioned it a lot in my confessional. And you didn't really influence my decision, you just made me feel better about voting out Ellen because she had a F2 with you.

I will answer your questions soon Ben

[Colleen]

Thank you so much Ben! It means a lot to me <3 I feel awkward because my answers are probably gonna be 1/4 of your entire questions

The whole F3 thing? I'm not sure if it was a real, lol. I actually thought about it the other day and I honestly think it may have just been an unspoken thing even though we both wanted it? lol.

The week Ryan wanted to take out Dominic to save AJ, you and Ellen strongly opposed this from the beginning (I actually believe you were more adamant than Ellen was about not going through with it.) Why were you so opposed to taking Dominic out earlier when he was such a big threat?

I was opposed to taking out Dominic because I was down with Ellis to make the F6 and the fact that it was odd to me that Ryan was campaigning so hard to keep AJ. I know Dominic was a threat but at the time I needed him in the game for numbers and so that Ryan did not have another alliance to fall back on. Why would I want to go from majority to the minority? It would have been such a dumb move at the time and I didn't trust it.


Furthermore, (why) do you feel Ryan depended on Ellen more than you? What did you do to branch out from Ellen, and where does your game differ from Ryan's? I feel like you both kind of accepted your position in this game, but I do feel like you got a bit of a reality check when I was blindsided. It seemed to be your wake-up call and you learned from that, which shows improvement.


Well everyone depended on Ellen. I mean, I trusted her the most and felt safe even though I was paranoid at times. I was always going to be loyal to her because she kept her word but as you said, it was a reality check when you got blindsided. It made me realise that we weren't as tight as I thought and in fact made me want to take her out because I thought she played me this entire game. It was like Ellen cast a spell on the entire cast and it wore off on me that round. (I just thought of Sabrna: The Teenage Witch!) So I think our games are kinda the similar in that sense, that we both listened to Ellen but I feel like Ryan put Ellen's needs ahead of her own (as in voting out AJ over Dominic) whereas I put my own needs first, since what I wanted to happen always wound up happening (aside from the Ben blindside). Also the fact that she probably would have taken Ellen to the finals even though she knows that Ellen played the best game.

For example, the very next week, Ellen and Ryan had the opportunity to knock you out... do you think it was a mistake that they did not? Carly obviously didn't have her wake-up call with my blindside, so personally I feel that you were more of a threat, as you now understood the dynamics of the game, and you became the star of the show. Is this maybe there you shined and Ryan faltered?

It definitely was a mistake for the both of them. I am stronger than Carly so it was a bit of a surprise to find out that they kept me. It was a bad move for Ryan [at the time] because I wasn't going to take her to the finals when Carly was a sure thing. I can understand why Ellen did because we were closer but did she really think I was fine with your blindside? I know, I was calm and everything but they shoulda taken me out if they wanted to go to the end together.


To both of you, do you think that the above statement is an accurate assumption of your strategies and if so, which do you think that is more respectable and more deserving of the title: Soul Survivor? (How) would you alter the above statement to make it more plausible?

I think both statements are an accurate assumption.

I do think we are both worthy of the win but I feel like my game is much better because as Ryan said, people "overlooked" me and that was a mistake on their part because here I am I think it is a legitimate strategy to be under the radar and I played it perfect because people thought I was weak when I'm not. I have proved that I was social, strategic and competitive without looking like a threat or getting blood on my hands.

Thank you again and good luck with your decision.


And Ryan, I did not lie about it. [re: she approached Carly about voting together with her, and then she lied about it.] I told you that I told Carly that we should vote together when she approached me because I didn't want Carly to vote me. But I did fail to mention that I said we needed eachother and that if she voted you, I would vote with her. I was convinced that I was going to leave that round so I didn't want to just do nothing but then when Ellen told me that Carly said some stuff, I backed off and played it cool.

[ben]

Okay thank you for your responses ladies. Just a couple things...

Jan 27, 2013 2:25:04 GMT -5 Colleen said:

The whole F3 thing? I'm not sure if it was a real, lol. I actually thought about it the other day and I honestly think it may have just been an unspoken thing even though we both wanted it? lol.

Haha I know right? That was funny, I went through my confessional like, "did we ever actually sit down and decide on this" o.O lolol.

Jan 26, 2013 23:39:57 GMT -5 Ryan said:

The only reason we felt so comfortable over there was because of your personal relations with AJ, wasn't it?

Yes, we did feel comfortable because of personal relationships with AJ. However, I didn't just go up to AJ and be like, "Oh my gosh, we're friends in real life! Flip over to our side!" No. It was not like that at all, and AJ was not sure she was flipping as soon as the switch happened. Carly was her secret partner, and AJ bonded with the both of us during the first round of the game. As it turned out (and I'm saying all this based on what AJ personally told me), she was not a huge fan of Liam, Leah, or Kendell. So, she did bond closely to us and feel more comfortable chatting with us. That is the reason she felt like flipping. At least, that's everything she told me. I did not just use her as a vote and then toss her aside. She strategically chose to switch over because she thought it was best for her.

Yeah that is what I'm thinking. We formed a great bond with her and I loved and adored AJ so much. It never came up, and AJ was kinda isolated from Liam/Leah/Kendell, but part of me wonders if she even would have opened up to us (you..) about that, if you guys didn't have the relationship. Idk guess we'll never know.

Jan 26, 2013 23:39:57 GMT -5 Ryan said:

I guess my final question to you Ryan, is do you regret any of these moves? Particularly, taking Carly out at F4, letting Colleen in the F3? Personally, I feel that was the one mistake that cost you and Ellen.

How could I say I regretted this move? As Colleen said in a previous statement, she approached Carly about voting together with her, and then she lied about it. Ellen was solid in keeping Colleen. I couldn't change that, unfortunately. I think Ellen thought Colleen for sure would take her to the end. Yeah, this annoyed me, but I made the smarter move by voting off Carly. Had Ellen voted Carly, and I voted Colleen, it opened up the opportunity that Colleen and Carly could vote together and take me out. Even though this scenario didn't happen, I still made the move to protect myself. And I don't regret it now that Colleen admitted that she was thinking about it. It SUCKED voting Carly off. It really did because I love her so much. And yeah, hindsight is 20/20. But I didn't want to split mine and Ellen's votes and go in the final 4 because of being careless.

It was risky for me to have Colleen in the final 3 because she was closer to Ellen. What wasn't mentioned yet is that Colleen ADMITTED to me that she was leaning towards taking Ellen to the finals before I got to her. I stayed up until 4 AM campaigning to Colleen about why Ellen shouldn't get to the finals. Had I not done this, it would have been Colleen and Ellen sitting in the final 2. So I didn't just sit back and never advance my place in the game. I worked hard to get here.

Why couldn't you change how solid Ellen was on keeping Colleen? That's what I'm saying, you always seemed to buckle into what Ellen wanted to do. It seemed like you wanted Carly around and she wanted Colleen around, so why did you give in to what Ellen wanted and not try to convince her otherwise? I understand the argument of why you and Ellen couldn't split your votes, but I don't understand why Ellen had to be the one to get the final say? It just makes it sound she was the captain of your ship.

Jan 26, 2013 23:39:57 GMT -5 Ryan said:

You don't consider voting me out and lying about it to be unnecessary?

We never were on the chatroom at the same time before the vote. So I never even had a chance to lie about it to you. But yes, I did think it was necessary. I did not expect you to hear the news and then just lay down and die. Colleen was not down with voting you off. It worked better as a blindside because I did not want you freaking out and then running to Colleen and Carly and trying to get a majority. If you would have known too far in advance, you could have pulled something. Yeah, it was hard to vote you off, but there were strategic reasons behind making it a blindside. You can say that there wouldn't have been enough time, but it was still a risk. Besides, I never had the chance to lie to your face. Like I said, we never even had the opportunity to discuss the vote together before Judgement.

I'm jw but were you avoiding the chatroom at all that week? No one was even there but Ellen so it seems to me that you were letting her do the dirty work?

Jan 26, 2013 23:39:57 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Furthermore, failing to acknowledge my departure only made it worse.

I apologize. Some of your comments pissed me off, quite frankly. You said how much you loved Liberty and how you should have stayed with them. Well, you were on a Chase lovefest for forever. I just found that funny because you were trashing Chase SO much before you voted him off. You said so much crap about him, but then at Judgement you were saying how much you loved him, and you answered questions at following Judgements separating yourself from Ellis and our decisions as a tribe. So yeah, I was mad at your comments and that is why I didn't post anything. I'm just being honest with you.

Thank you for apologizing, apology accepted. And yeah I loved Liberty, I only trashed talked Chase because he was going home and I had to prove I was back on the Ellis-ship, so I didn't go down with Liberty's. At Judgment I was always honest, so I'm sorry if you didn't like my honesty? Also it annoyed me that I wound up being the only one to give a real answer at Judgments (or at least my final judgment) when the rest of you just made jokes. Then what do ya know, I'm the one booted. Shocker shocker when I'm the only one playing the game while the rest of you crack jokes at summer camp or something. I wish one of you spoke to me privately about what I would say at judgment, I had no idea my honesty annoyed anyone.

Jan 26, 2013 23:39:57 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Uhh, did you actually vote off Carly, EXPECTING Colleen to take you to the end? I don't think even Colleen expected to take you to the end (Correct me if I'm wrong, Colleen). But you voting out Carly was definitely not to "get you to this point," as I'm pretty sure you probably thought you were fucked the moment Colleen won the final immunity challenge.

Yeah, I did think that I was fucked at that point. But as I explained above, voting off Carly was a strategic decision because I did not want to split votes and risk me getting fucked over for it.

Addressed this above as well, but you thinking you were fucked only makes the decision to keep Colleen worse for you.

Jan 26, 2013 23:39:57 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Luckily for you, Colleen smartened up and took you. How much do you believe Colleen's decision was of your influence?

I believe that it was mostly my influence. Colleen admitted to me that she was originally planning on taking Ellen until I planted thoughts into her head. I hope she admits that here too instead of lying about it. Everything she said about Ellen being Kim in One World and playing the best game and being unbeatable in the end, are things I told her the night Ellen got voted out. This is the PM I sent Colleen:

blah blah blah

This of course excludes everything I also mentioned as soon as Colleen got into the chat. (I apologize, Ellen. I had to fight for my life.) I knew Colleen was obsessed with One World. So I strategically used One World analogies to influence her. In addition, I outed the fact that Ellen told me she was for sure taking me even after she knew I wasn't winning the final immunity challenge. This was really a sting towards Colleen, or so she said. She felt like a third wheel and like Ellen had used her. I think without my antics, Ellen would be sitting here. So no, I did not just luck my way into the finals.

It seems Colleen was planning on voting Ellen out anyway, but you just made it easier and relieved her heavy heart. So it didn't really change anything, it just justified that it wasn't really a backstab in Colleen's eyes.

Jan 26, 2013 23:39:57 GMT -5 Ryan said:

"In the end, I feel that Ryan's story is much different from Colleen's, because I feel that Colleen had to actively work to advance her position in the game, while Ryan took a much more laid-back and calm approach, just drifting."


I think this statement isn't true at all, and I think it is clouded by jury bitterness and misconceptions. I did not have a laid-back and calm approach. Should I be punished for the fact that I played such a good social game that I was already ranked high in everyone's minds? I played from DAY ONE, and that is why it seemed like I was in an "easier" position later on. I was in that position because I WORKED for it. Colleen had to work to advance her position? No, Colleen was overlooked because she was seen as non-threatening, less social, and less strategic. I'm not saying Colleen played a horrible game, but she was someone who was overlooked. That doesn't mean that she had to work harder to be here at all. I would correct it to this:


Ryan worked hard in the game from very early on, securing herself into a great position by playing a very strong social and strategic game. Colleen played it cool and under the radar, and she was able to skate by because she was not seen as a threat.

Thank you for making a new statement. It's your opinion and you're entitled to that. Yeah you got yourself into a good position in day one, but what did you do with your good position? Nothing, really. You just rode it to the end comfortably. As I've enumerated a number of times, you tried to make moves but they never really came to fruition.